How blogs and communities helped me choose between Firefox; LA Sovereign; Hercules and Hero bicyles and what this means for marketers!

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I have been eager to write this post, but wanted to complete the loop before I actually wrote it down. Day-before, I finally picked up a LA Sovereign bicycle as part of my new exercise regimen to replace yoga, thanks to the neck injury that I caused myself at class.
I think I am a fussy buyer – the entire purchase experience, and not just the product, matters to me. In this case, I was going back to something that I grew up doing with a lot of intensity and passion and was fairly involved in the process of this purchase. Whether I made the right decision remains to be seen, but it allowed me to witness some of our own theories play out quite nicely:
Layers of Influence.
I had put together this simple model, capturing the core of conversational marketing, as we see it. With some changes from case-to-case, I think it holds true.

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We believe, that over and above the layer of traditional channels, is a complete new layer of social media that is playing a very crucial role in the decision making process.
There was a time when we saved that newspaper clippings/ ads/ flyers of anything that we found of interest or were hoping to buy. What is happening today?
The Internet is now my ‘clipping’. It is my central repository where I go to look for information, when I need it. The three important players on the new layer:

  1. The peer – the increasing clutter; uncertainty about transparency/ unbiased reportage, among a large section of the traditional media, has meant that the original circle of trust- friends, family and peer opinion has an enhanced value.
  2. The expert – the ‘traditional’ experts are increasingly publishing content online; new experts are emerging, thanks to the enabling micro-publishing environment of the the Internet/ Web 2.0 today.
  3. The marketer – needs to engage stakeholders through transparent conversations, for, ‘brochure speak’ of the traditional media doesn’t work anymore.

I came back having tested the Hercules Ryder and a couple of Firefox bikes. My heart was set on buying a Firefox Fusion – it served my purpose quite beautifully – 40 mins to 1 hour ride, mornings, on fairly smooth roads. It also fell within my budget.
A quick search on Google, landed me on Shree’s blog post – cautioning me ‘Buy Firefox at your own risk!’
What I witnessed was quite remarkable – there was a whole conversation happening on this single post. There were some 85 comments already:
There were peers, of course,; there were alsoexperts – offering advice, managing communities and events/ initiatives. And lo, what do I see!! The marketer too has joined the conversations – taking feedback, sharing thoughts; not defending his product but offering solutions.
I left a comment, asking if my choice was a good one. The Firefox team was prompt in jumping in, leaving a comment and then someone from their team wrote me an email requesting me to get in touch with him on his hand phone, which I did. They were transparent, stood their ground (no discounts). The only gap, a significant one, one could say – they were not good at closing a deal. I bought a competitor’s product when I was absolutely sold on Firefox! Confidence? Over-confidence? Flawed Customer Service Focus? Who is to say…but a sale lost. Lesson in this for all of us, including me! More on this later.
Who is scared of negative comments?
Simple answer: all of us!
We shudder at the thought of “what if there are negative comments?” and yet, they happen to all of us. I learnt a lesson rather early into my blogs journey and made it a case-study on the 3rd day (after spending the initial 2 days in absolute shock and mourning). Many learnings came my way from this episode.
Many, if not most, brands are scared to embrace blogs & social media for fears of “What if?” No amount of convincing might be able to showcase to them what this one bike post does. In real life, different people have different experiences, good is peppered with bad, and that negative makes it REAL.
A significant number of comments in the Firefox post are negative, and YET, I was convinced about the quality of the bikes and nearly bought one. The posts allowed me to make ‘an educated decision’. That’s what the customer is looking for on the net. The attitude of the marketer in this situation would be critical:

  1. Is the marketer unnecessarily defensive?
  2. Or, is the marketer open to feedback and suggestions? Is the marketer listening? Participating?

Still sitting on the fence, Mr. Marketer?
Having tasted success from this episode, should Firefox (and others in the category) not be embracing social media more pro-actively?

  1. Setting up their own blogs, spaces where customers could engage with them directly? Firefox does have a club.
  2. Should they not be involving the customer in the very process of crafting & testing the bikes?
  3. Creating evangelist programmes and more?

Still scared to test the waters? Go, take the plunge, but do show it the reverence it deserves. Do invest into rigour and discipline – think it through, for there are no ‘One Size Fits All’ solutions.
In the end, however, it’s Customer Focus that matters most.
Proactive interactions on blogs, email but missing on closure – the difference between ‘nearly sold’ to ‘actually sold’.
The reasons I finally went with LA:

  1. ‘ Perceived’ value for money: Perceived still, and I will soon discover if it is ‘real’.
  2. Last mile: I called their office in Punjab for numbers of local dealers, which they promptly messaged back on my hand-phone. I ended up speaking with Gaurav of Supreme Cycle Co. – he had a rap number set as his caller tune; I landed at the store to find an intelligent looking young man, dressed in grunge; stud in one ear, blue tooth headset in the other ( I advised him to remove it when dealing with customers), laptop open on his desk – I could see he was using it to manage his stocks, as also listen to music; passionate about bikes, he was treating his customers with warmth. He knew his product and took me through the entire line-up, without showing any signs of impatience. Negotiated well but also made me feel like I got a deal. I was sold. He made a sale.

Happy biking the social media roads!
On another note, do check out xbhp!

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  • Super post, Need to mark it on Digg
    Have a nice day
  • Ok, apologies all for the delayed comment. Here are my top of mind thoughts on the bike and my experience. I will try and do a 1:10 rating on some of the key aspects, where 1 is the poorest and 10 is the highest rating.
    Body = 9
    Brakes = 9
    Tyres & Wheel = 8
    Seat = 8
    Gears = 7
    Gear change device = 6
    Mud Guards = 5
    Overall = 7.5
    I am generally happy with the bicycle.
    The only thing that bugs me are the gears. They are Shimono originals, but it could well be the fact that there was something wrong with the gear device that came with the box and the dealer exchanged it with another bike at the store. Don't know what he changed but I have a feeling that's what didn't get fixed quite all right. I intend taking it back to the store one of these days.
    Cheers all. Happy riding.
  • Rohan: Thanks for dropping by. Yup, I know about it. Do tell me if there are more cycling enthusiasts in my part of the world. Would be happy to join them.
    Faiq and Milind: Thanks for dropping by. In fact, someone called me on behalf of LA a couple of months ago to do a feedback survey on my riding experience. Let me try and share with you my 1-10 ratings on some aspects of the bike in the next couple of days.
    Cheers.
    Rajesh
  • MILIND
    Hi Rajesh ,
    now that you have used your bike for couple of months . can you share your experience about the bike . pros & cons .
    thanks ./milind
  • Faiq
    Would like to read a review of the LA Sovereign you bought.
  • Interesting post :)
    Thank you for considering me an expert - Not sure if you know about our recent initiative to help out bikers from going thru what you read on Shrees blog - BumsOnTheSaddle - http://bumsonthesaddle.com
  • Ankit
    Hi Rajesh,
    Hope you remember me. We had a chat about your purchase which I intended to use for a piece of consumer research. I went through your concept and shall I say that it's masterpiece of a thought actually. However, being a dedicated market researcher myself, i guess that much also depends upon the product in question, the target segment and the positioning. Environs & land scape in India are changing radically and as such tools like blogs will definitely play a vital role. How can I forget this website www.mouthshut.com for its reviews. I remember, I chose a particular resort and a particular hill station for my honeymoon using this website as a fulcrum of my opinions.
    Alas! Once a market researcher, always a market researcher.
    Cheers!
    Ankit
  • Ooops!!! the system wasnt accepting the comments so had to retry numerous times..... newez i too look forward to a rewarding stay at ur blog, which i am sure it will be!!
  • Hi Nisha,
    I have got six posts of the same comment from you, I am publishing only the last one that you posted.
    The feedback is indeed taken in positive light as I mentioned in my previous reply. You will see many of our peers participating on this blog on an ongoing basis - like in our Blog the
    Talk series (edition 5 is a case in point); through guest posts and most importantly through comments.
    I hope as we go forward, many of the questions that you ask about transparency and of value we see in learning from others and linking to others will get answered.
    Keep reading and keep writing.
    Cheers.
    Rajesh
  • Hi
    I hope the feedback is taken in the positive spirit cause i really dint intend to sound offensive. And i say all that not to follow or establish any 'social media conversation protocol' but becuase ur blog has been a real help in my research and yes the case study is a real treasure!!
    However, i feel that ur contention that'that in fact I can blatantly do on the side bar' is weak cause every smart marketer and an even smarter consumer deez days knows that an indirect form of advertising/publicity (that the links mite or actually tantamount to) holds credibility at times than direct adverisment. cause at times SUBTLENESS scores over BLATANCY.
    also i know that u do not claim to be the Last word on social media but if that REALLY is so then y put up ONLY ur compay's ad on the links.y not give a plethora of options to the readers.Igf ur blog's views are independent of ur company's and if the case study thing is just an information sharing tool , then y not put up oder ppl's (who r in a similar filed) links too.Now i know u must be first convinced of oders' potential in the area to site them as an example.But i do not buy it if u say that besides blogworks, no one else's work in this The above views are entirely personal... do not know about how oders felt...actually i think i was reading the entire thing in a different realm,both as a marketer and as any oder independent reader at the same time, and dats y such a perspective sprung up.I think it was more of reviewing than viewing the article from my side..any oder independent reader mite not have felt as revolted on seeing the links as did I .........
  • Hi
    I hope the feedback is taken in the positive spirit cause i really dint intend to sound offensive. And i say all that not to follow or establish any 'social media conversation protocol' but becuase ur blog has been a real help in my research and yes the case study is a real treasure!!
    However, i feel that ur contention that'that in fact I can blatantly do on the side bar' is weak cause every smart marketer and an even smarter consumer deez days knows that an indirect form of advertising/publicity (that the links mite or actually tantamount to) holds credibility at times than direct adverisment. cause at times SUBTLENESS scores over BLATANCY.
    also i know that u do not claim to be the Last word on social media but if that REALLY is so then y put up ONLY ur compay's ad on the links.y not give a plethora of options to the readers.Igf ur blog's views are independent of ur company's and if the case study thing is just an information sharing tool , then y not put up oder ppl's (who r in a similar filed) links too.Now i know u must be first convinced of oders' potential in the area to site them as an example.But i do not buy it if u say that besides blogworks, no one else's work in this The above views are entirely personal... do not know about how oders felt...actually i think i was reading the entire thing in a different realm,both as a marketer and as any oder independent reader at the same time, and dats y such a perspective sprung up.I think it was more of reviewing than viewing the article from my side..any oder independent reader mite not have felt as revolted on seeing the links as did I .........
    open to discussion!!
  • Hi
    I hope the feedback is taken in the positive spirit cause i really dint intend to sound offensive. And i say all that not to follow or establish any 'social media conversation protocol' but becuase ur blog has been a real help in my research and yes the case study is a real treasure!!
    However, i feel that ur contention that'that in fact I can blatantly do on the side bar' is weak cause every smart marketer and an even smarter consumer deez days knows that an indirect form of advertising/publicity (that the links mite or actually tantamount to) holds credibility at times than direct adverisment. cause at times SUBTLENESS scores over BLATANCY.
    also i know that u do not claim to be the Last word on social media but if that REALLY is so then y put up ONLY ur compay's ad on the links.y not give a plethora of options to the readers.Igf ur blog's views are independent of ur company's and if the case study thing is just an information sharing tool , then y not put up oder ppl's (who r in a skimilar filed) links too.Now i know u must be first convinced of oders' potential in the area to site them as an example.But i do not buy it if u say that besides blogworks, no one else's work in this The above views are entirely personal... do not know about how oders felt...actually i think i was reading the entire thing in a different realm,both as a marketer and as any oder independent reader at the same time, and dats y such a perspective sprung up.I think it was more of reviewing than viewing the article from my side..any oder independent reader mite not have felt as revolted on seeing the links as did I .........
    open to discussion!!
  • Hi
    I hope the feedback is taken in the positive spirit cause i really dint intend to sound offensive. And i say all that not to follow or establish any 'social media conversation protocol' but becuase ur blog has been a real help in my research and yes the case study is a real treasure!!
    However, i feel that ur contention 'that in fact I can blatantly do on the side bar' is weak, cause every smart marketer and a smarter consumer deez days knows that an indirect form of advertising/publicity (that the links mite or actually tantamount to) holds credibility at times than direct adverisment. cause at times being SUBTLEscores over being BLATANT.
    also i know that u do not claim to be the Last word on social media but if that REALLY is so then y put up ONLY ur compay's ad on the links.y not give a plethora of options to the readers.If ur blog's views are independent of ur company's and if the case study thing is just an information sharing tool , then y not put up oder ppl's (who r in a similar filed) links too.Now i know u must be first convinced of oders' potential in the area to site them as an example.But i do not buy it if u say that besides blogworks, no one else's work in this area attracts or interests u.........
    The above views are entirely personal... do not know about how oders felt...i think i was reading the entire thing in a different realm,both as a marketer and as any oder independent reader at the same time, and dats y such a perspective sprung up.I think it was more of reviewing than viewing the article from my side..any oder independent reader mite not have felt as revolted on seeing the links as did I .........
    open to discussion!!
  • Hi
    I hope the feedback is taken in the positive spirit cause i really dint intend to sound offensive. And i say all that not to follow or establish any 'social media conversation protocol' but becuase ur blog has been a real help in my research and yes the case study is a real treasure!!
    However, i feel that ur contention 'that in fact I can blatantly do on the side bar' is weak, cause every smart marketer and a smarter consumer deez days knows that an indirect form of advertising/publicity (that the links mite or actually tantamount to) holds credibility at times than direct adverisment. cause at times SUBTLENESS scores over being BLATANT.
    also i know that u do not claim to be the Last word on social media but if that REALLY is so then y put up ONLY ur compay's ad on the links.y not give a plethora of options to the readers.If ur blog's views are independent of ur company's and if the case study thing is just an information sharing tool , then y not put up oder ppl's (who r in a similar filed) links too.Now i know u must be first convinced of oders' potential in the area to site them as an example.But i do not buy it if u say that besides blogworks, no one else's work in this area attracts or interests u.........
    The above views are entirely personal... do not know about how oders felt...i think i was reading the entire thing in a different realm,both as a marketer and as any oder independent reader at the same time, and dats y such a perspective sprung up.I think it was more of reviewing than viewing the article from my side..any oder independent reader mite not have felt as revolted on seeing the links as did I .........
    open to discussion!!
  • Hi
    I hope the feedback is taken in the positive spirit cause i really dint intend to sound offensive. And i say all that not to follow or establish any 'social media conversation protocol' but becuase ur blog has been a real help in my research and yes the case stuyd is a reak treasure!!
    However, i feel that ur contention that'that in fact I can blatantly do on the side bar' is weak cause every smart marketer and an even smarter consumer deez days knows that an indirect form of advertising/publicity (that the links mite or do actually tantamount to) holds credibility at times than direct adverisment. cause at times SUBTLENESS scores over being BLATANT.
    also i know that u do not claim to be the Last word on social media but if that REALLY is so then y put up ONLY ur compay's ad on the links.y not give a plethora of options to the readers.Igf ur blog's views are independent of ur company's and if the case study thing is just an information sharing tool , then y not put up oder ppl's (who r in a skimilar filed) links too.Now i know u must be first convinced of oders' potential in the area to site them as an example.But i do not buy if u say that besides blogworks, no one else's work in this area attracts u or interests u.........
    well the above views are entirely personal... do not knwo about how oders felt...i think i was reading the entire thing in a differnet realm,both as a marketer and any oder independent reader at the same time, and dats y such a perspective sprung up.I think it was more of reviewing than viewing the article..any oder independent reader mite not have felt as revolted on seeing the links as did I .........
    open to discussion
  • Hi Nisha,
    Thanks for writing back.
    I do value your feedback, in fact value it so much, that I read it out in a meeting just 30 minutes ago.
    The purpose of the link is not to advertise the services we offer - that in fact I can blatantly do on the side bar - but to point readers towards what 'we think' is rigor and jumping in - after all you would expect us to ourselves believe in what we do. There are many options thereafter that the reader has and there is no way for me to figure out who read what and the action that followed.
    I will however keep your feedback in mind going forward and see, if and how we can avoid even tiniest amounts of confusion in the readers mind.
    Also we hold no notions that we can pitch for this form of marketing alone or make people adopt this dynamic environment single handedly - there are thousands of us, constantly working, learning, exchanging inputs and learning from feedback. We are just a small part of this dynamic revolution that's taking place around us.
    Thanks for keeping the conversation going. Please keep participating.
    Cheers.
    Rajesh
  • Hi Rajesh
    Well a si said i was disappointed to knwo that the person making a case for using social media is itself advertising indirectly about its own business in the same field.So it led me to believe that perhaps why u are pitching for this medium is becuase it might be ur bread and butter and u might just be using thisarticle to lead people to buy your services.
    whereas i completely agree with the case study, but as i said, that for me..the blog would have held greater credibility had those links not been there.
    Hope u gt my point
  • Hi Nisha. Thanks for the comment and am glad that you enjoyed the case-study. why did your confidence plummet? In fact i was hoping that the links would add to your confidence in our ability to deliver exactly what the links promised. Why are the links wrong? The blog i write shares insights and our learning quite transperantly and is open for all to take and similarly we gain from blogs that my peers write.many, in fact, most of our sopposed competitiön are friends.we link to each other, comment on each other's blogs.meet and have meals together.however, we do run a business and you will from time to time see blogworks announcemens on the blog. Everyöne is however free to choose partners they are most cönfident working with. It is rajesh@blogworks and linked with the corporate site. Transparent conversations build trust.i hope we are able to win yours too. Keep writing.
  • A very interesting read indeed. I am myself contemplating selling the social media platform for marketing to my company. While browsing thru the case study, i had nearly bought the idea of social media marketing as a potent tool.
    However, my confidence plummetted when all i saw on clicking the 'TAKE THE PLUNGE' and 'Do invest into rigour and discipline' links ,was an exhibition of blogworks workshops and tools only.
    I somehow felt that the views expressed by the author on adopting social media were not so unbiased afterall.The links seemed more like 'Calls to Action' of any e mail campaign rather than genuine personal recommendations.
    Although the dent in the faith was not so steep so as to rubbish the idea of social media marketing altogether, but somehow it made me dwell on whether to Go ahead with it or no .
    My opinion: When a very strong reason why people vouch the bloggers' comments or get influenced by the same are the level of trust placed in them, lets not rob the same by converting blog posts as platforms for evangelism.the post would have been more credible sans those links
  • kaa
    i ended up on this post searching for firefox fusion too :). what bike did u finally buy? i m planning to get one soon.
    and u are very right observing that small/niche area marketers as well as some big time (sunsilk gang of girls blog) have discovered what blogs could do to them.
  • i didn't know there were so many biking enthusiasts in India! Great post!
  • Avi
    It was reading your last post yesterday on how blogs and communities shape opinion and moreover the diagram which you had of the ‘Layers of influence’ (which you had shown me earlier) which had me reverting back to the Mahabharata, specifically to the Chakravyuha.
    Here’s a description of the Chakravyuh from Wikipedia:
    The Chakravyuha is an army formation mentioned in the Hindu epic Mahabharata.
    It is a seven-tier defensive spiral formation, used by Dronacharya, commander-in-chief of the Kaurava army.The formation is likened to a chariot wheel.
    The various vyuhas (army formations) had been studied by the Kauravas and Pandavas alike, with most of the vyuhas having their counter formations to break the enemy formation. It is important to observe that in the form of battle described in the Mahabharata, it was important to position the powerful fighters in positions where they would inflict the maximum damage on the opposing force or defend against the attacks of key warriors of the opposition.
    This particular vyuha was special in being the only vyuha that none of the Pandava warriors except Abhimanyu, Arjuna, Krishna and Pradyumna knew how to lead an offensive against it. Arjuna's son Abhimanyu had the knowledge of penetrating into the Chakravyuha but not how to exit from it. He learned it when he was still inside the womb of his mother, Subhadra. Ironically, Subhadra fell asleep while she was being explained about the formation by Arjuna, and so Abhimanyu could not learn how to escape from it. He died in the Kurukshetra War trying to break free from the Chakravyuha. Mahabharata also has references wherein the rules of Chakravyuha were broken by Kauravas to kill Abhimanyu. After Abhimanyu penetrated the sixth tier of spiral formation, All the Kaurava warriors attacked him in unison.
    It was against the rules of Dharmayuddha, which stated that multiple warriors should not attack a single warrior.
    But does this Chakravuyha come into being in present context?
    Reading your last post seemed to suggest to me that it does.
    Let’s re-inspect the Chakravyuha. It’s a coaxial rotating formation of troops arranged in tiers. The main objective is put in the centre of the formation which drives the opposing army to penetrate this formation with each wave of attack being ground down by the rotating tier of defense.
    In today’s market a Brand regularly has to face a similar chakravyuha. A chakravuyha formed by layers of influence with the prize being the Consumers positive opinion.
    In the jungle of Marketing warfare, no Dharmayuddha prevails unfortunately and lone forays of Brands can and are mowed down.
    Working on the formation of the Chakravuyha I realized that the same might apply to the layers of influence which guides a consumer opinion. Here I have taken liberty of moving away from how you have depicted the layers of influence and arranged in on the basis of priority of interaction.
    Around the primal core of ‘Consumer Opinion”, the seven layers formed are:
    1st layer is the generic layer where the need resides (in the last case a purchase of bicycle), which also gives raise to the need to compare
    The 2nd layer would then constitute of sponsored communications (what has been termed as Traditional channels by you, though I guess this layer could be further subdivided) which would whet the curiosity with an inflexible message
    The 3rd layer is created by informal opinion of close associates. This layer may be created by direct experiences or might just be a lose association of opinions or impressions.
    The 4th layer is traditional media forums. Here I’d club specialist magazines, portals/vortals, TV Channel discussion forums/programs, product guides etc
    The 5th layer is where social media would take over and it would consist of opinion aggregators like Mouthshut, Amazon etc
    The 6th layer would be the individual mouthpieces in the forms of various blogs or other such means of expressions and it would consist of the experts, the Mavens, the peers. Much like Mahabharata’s Chakravuyha, the Mahayodhas are placed here to at an intimate layer of fighting.
    The 7th layer would be the layer of seeded discussions. The outermost layer, which is most fluid, dynamic and dangerous. For if it was difficult to understand how Chaos Theory suggested that the flap of the butterfly wings in the Amazon rainforest, we can see how isolated opinions can become Egregors here!
    The Chakravuyh was a perfect formation, if there wasn’t specialist knowledge to cleave it (in Mahabharata it would be Krishna and Arjuna). Its strength lay in providing a dynamic stronghold which was difficult to lay siege on. The present day Chakravyuha is even more dangerous, for while the Chakravyuhas of the yore was restricted by time and space, the present Chakravuyhas are not similarly constrained and they are manned by the most fearsome of warriors. Strong, agile, fluid, amorphic...oipnions!
    And it’s this formation that Brand communicators will have to cleave. How they could do it? Or what insight would Clauswitz, Sun Tzu or other martial insights have to offer? I guess that could make for a blog piece in itself! :P
  • Palin - Thanks. I typically expect smaller overseas brands to replicate their learnings from those markets faster compared to say a large overseas brand or an Indian brand. Guess that's what we have witnessed in the case of Firefox. Can't say if it is planned but I do hope that enthused with what they see here, they do choose to do this on a more focused basis.
    Geoff - Thanks! :)
    Toby - You are absolutely right - it's wonderful to see a brand show proactiveness and also that at the end it is the wholesome experience. Well, the face-to-face in the India context of a touch and feel environment, particularly on high involvement products, is bound to happen and that's where the last mile counts. My experience on the last mile with LA swung it in their favour - I can CONVINCED about Firefox on every aspect. Interesting no?
    All yours to use! :) - sent you!
    Chhavi- Thanks :) Dwarka roads are just fab! See when you come home some day! I am not doing 12 miles yet... but the fields are actually just 10 kms away - I calculated - and will go there soon.
    Cheers all!
    R
  • Rajesh, great analysis of how crucial customer service is. In India this only just now becoming a factor I feel. But good for LA and good for you. Happy biking (where are these smooth roads you speak of btw? I really miss biking. I'd go 12 miles a day in Boston - to work and back. sigh.)
  • Excellent example of what is now a "typical consumer experience." Should give Firefox lots fo credit for not only listening in on the conversation but taking the extra steps to provide a direct contact number/email.
    However, as you point out the customer purchase decision is complex and social media is but one influencing factor. I can't help but wonder if you did not speak with the Firefox rep would the story have been different? In other words did the "face-to-face" kill the deal?
    By the way, I'd love a copy of your Layers of Influence on purchase decision graphic to include in a presentation I'm giving on social media. With due credit back to you of course!
  • It's funny you mention this, as I was in a class the other day where the negative comments thing came up. This is a good example of how this hurt a company. Dell is a great example of how listening helped a company!
  • good post rajesh. i remember firefox quite well and was talking about it with a colleague today...there was a news clip on hbl. It's surprising to note that being a recent entrant, they have jumped into engaging the social media. that's good. would be interesting to know if this was a one-off or if they are following a planned approach for the new media.
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